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How Human-Centric Leadership Transforms Corporate Diversity and Hiring with Robert Crowder

About the episode

What changes when an executive search firm shifts from transactional hiring to placing community, purpose, and diversity at the heart of its business model? 

On this episode of Doing Good by Doing Better, Robert Crowder, Founder and Managing Partner of Chapman Farrell Group, shares how human-centric leadership, diversity of thought, and a commitment to putting people first have shaped the way he approaches executive search and the business he has built around it. 

For ten years, Chapman Farrell Group has challenged conventional recruiting assumptions by building a model rooted in trust, relationships, and long-term success. Grounded in a powerful family legacy tied to the Underground Railroad, Robert approaches executive search not simply as a transaction, but as an opportunity to advocate for others and help create pathways to career and economic freedom. By focusing on human-centric leadership across his firm’s operations, Robert has built a high-performing model where 100% of candidate slates include women or minorities, over 80% of final hires are women or minorities, and every placement is backed by an uncommon 18-month guarantee. 

The conversation explores what human-centric leadership looks like in practice. From creating environments where diversity of thought leads to more perspectives, choices, and richer decisions, to choosing authentic community building over self-serving networking. Robert also shares lessons from building his own firm, including the importance of knowing when to pivot, and discusses why genuine human discernment and strong relationships will remain essential as AI continues to reshape executive search. 

Key discussion points include:

  • Redefining Diversity as Diversity of Thought: How different experiences and perspectives can help organizations see new possibilities, create more choices, and make richer decisions.
  • Connecting Legacy to Purpose: How Robert’s family history with the Underground Railroad influences the purpose he finds in his work and his commitment to advocating for others. 
  • Building Trust into the Business Model: How Chapman Farrell Group approaches executive search as more than a transaction, from diverse candidate slates and identifying winning candidates early to an uncommon 18-month placement guarantee. 
  • Community Over Networking: Why Robert believes contributing to others and building genuine relationships creates more value than approaching relationships transactionally. 
  • Entrepreneurship, AI, and the Future of Executive Search: What Robert has learned about adapting and pivoting as a founder and why he believes discernment, relationships, and human connection will continue to differentiate leaders as technology evolves. 

Whether you lead a business, manage talent, or guide executive teams, this conversation offers a powerful framework for aligning purpose with operational excellence while thinking differently about diversity, decision-making, and relationships. 

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About the guest

Robert Crowder is the Founder and Managing Partner of Chapman Farrell Group, bringing more than 25 years of experience in executive recruiting and talent management. Throughout his career, Robert has worked with leading organizations including UPS, The Hartford, Aetna, and Vanguard before founding Chapman Farrell Group to bring a more thoughtful, relationship-driven approach to executive search. 

At the heart of Robert’s work is a belief that recruiting is about more than filling a role—it’s about creating opportunity, building lasting relationships, and helping people and organizations thrive. His people-first approach reflects the spirit of Doing Good by Doing Better, demonstrating how purpose, trust, and human connection can shape both meaningful careers and stronger businesses. 

About the Doing Good by Doing Better podcast

The Doing Good by Doing Better podcast highlights founders, executives, and innovators who share hard lessons, bold ideas, and real strategies for purpose-driven growth.

Every conversation offers practical insights you can use to solve forward. In each episode you’ll meet leaders who prove that being impact-driven and achieving meaningful success are not mutually exclusive.

Follow Doing Good by Doing Better on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and join us every other week as we keep learning how to do good by doing better.

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By Margaret Rogers
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Margaret Rogers, CEO of Pariveda, champions a purpose-driven culture focused on developing leaders, fostering continuous learning, and driving meaningful impact through strategic partnerships that extend business success beyond profit.

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